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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Earning from markets like aFRR takes more than a smart charger: metering, an optimisation strategy and a plan for the driver's next trip. Prof. Cédric De Cauwer of VUB's MOBI centre unpacks each one. In the full episode, he names the sites where it's easiest, like airport parking and depots.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Beyond this clip, Episode 59 covers Cédric's research on using reinforcement learning to schedule EV charging against Belgium's 15-minute imbalance prices. He also previews a new three-year project with Ghent University on coordinating tens of thousands of EVs for grid balancing and congestion management, including how to keep TSO and DSO needs from clashing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Watch the full conversation for the complete answer, from data requirements to the best use cases.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/3-things-a-cpo-needs-to-earn-from"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968571/133273430/bfc985311cc6b7cca3beca4013b2a585/standard/download-13-thumbnail.jpg" width="480" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <title>Smart charging can cut charging costs by up to 50% | Podcast#59 Highlight</title>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Up to 50% lower charging costs: that's what smart charging achieved in some of the cases Prof. Cédric De Cauwer has studied. Speaking as an EV driver and a VUB researcher, his advice to CPOs starts with reliability. Watch the full conversation for the flexibility revenues he would add next.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The full episode is a tour of where EV flexibility pays today. Cédric explains why FCR is losing value in Belgium, why aFRR pays well but is hard to deliver with EVs, and how charging against imbalance prices brought costs below zero in his simulations. He also shares his view on value stacking with co-located batteries and where vehicle-to-grid stands.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get his full roadmap from smart charging to flexibility revenues in Episode 59.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/smart-charging-can-cut-charging"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968575/133273422/9778bf957d61620d26f731e28def5cd2/standard/download-14-thumbnail.jpg" width="270" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <itunes:summary>Up to 50% lower charging costs: that's what smart charging achieved in some of the cases Prof. Cédric De Cauwer has studied. Speaking as an EV driver and a VUB researcher, his advice to CPOs starts with reliability. Watch the full conversation for the flexibility revenues he would add next.The full episode is a tour of where EV flexibility pays today. Cédric explains why FCR is losing value in Belgium, why aFRR pays well but is hard to deliver with EVs, and how charging against imbalance prices brought costs below zero in his simulations. He also shares his view on value stacking with co-located batteries and where vehicle-to-grid stands.Get his full roadmap from smart charging to flexibility revenues in Episode 59.</itunes:summary>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Can an EV be a flexible grid asset when the driver still needs enough charge to leave? Prof. Cédric De Cauwer (MOBI research centre, VUB) explains why the driver is both the goal and the biggest unknown in EV flexibility. The full episode covers how to involve drivers without adding friction.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Episode 59 of the ChargePoint Podcast, Christophe Lephilibert and Cédric dig into how to bring drivers on board: simpler interfaces, forecasting that saves drivers from typing in extra data, and helping them understand how flexibility works. They also look at the sites where driver behaviour is predictable enough to plan around, from office car parks to airport long-term parking and bus and truck depots.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Watch the full episode to see how CPOs can plan flexibility around real driver behaviour&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/why-the-driver-is-the-hardest-part"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968560/133273416/399369e5a066860661feeb855803baf9/standard/download-14-thumbnail.jpg" width="270" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;First the industry raced to install hardware. Then it focused on stability and user experience. Now, says Joakim, co-founder of Peak Energy, the EV charging market is all about cost and profit.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;Drawing on years of selling servers in the IT industry, Joakim sees the same pattern playing out for charge point operators: once the hardware is in place, the value moves to the management layer that controls it. Recorded at ICNC 2026 for Episode 57 of The ChargePoint Podcast.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;About the guest: Joakim is co-founder of Peak Energy, which helps CPOs and charge point management system (CPMS) providers understand and control grid costs. Before moving into e-mobility, he spent many years in solution sales in the IT and security industries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;In the full episode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why the EV charging market has moved from fast hardware rollout, to user experience, to cost and profitability&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Grid costs vs. energy costs: why connection and transfer fees are the hidden cost many CPOs overlook&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• How DSO peak tariffs vary (a single top peak, an average of three, summer vs. winter rates) and why the data is still scattered across individual DSO websites&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why a flexibility strategy has to account for DSO peak costs and driver experience, not just energy prices&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• How smart charging and energy management went from a niche topic to a mainstream one in two years, with investors now asking about its value&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Grid connection queues as a growing bottleneck in the Netherlands, Denmark and beyond&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Flexibility as a revenue stream, from energy markets to non-wire alternatives to grid build-out&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&#127911; Listen the full episode to hear Joakim explain how grid fees are defined, and why ignoring them either costs CPOs money or costs them customer experience. The episode also features independent EV grid integration consultant Jaap Burger.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/ev-chargings-shift-from-hardware"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968570/132701509/16811c41e92a0385c1aa37713805b64d/standard/download-13-thumbnail.jpg" width="270" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:17:22 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>How CPOs Can Turn Grid Constraints Into Revenue | Podcast#57 Highlight </title>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What if grid constraints were a revenue stream instead of a roadblock? Independent EV grid integration consultant Jaap Burger argues that this is the conversation CPOs need to be having, and that far too few are having it with policymakers and regulators.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;Flexibility creates value in two ways: through energy markets, and as a non-wire alternative that avoids costly grid build-out. With grid connection queues growing from the Netherlands to Denmark, that value is getting harder for charge point operators to ignore. Recorded at ICNC 2026 for Episode 57 of FLEXeCHARGE's ChargePoint Podcast.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;About the guest: Jaap Burger is an independent consultant specialising in EV grid integration, including smart and bidirectional charging. He works across regulation, policy and innovation, translating policy into business terms for companies and showing policymakers what charging technology can already deliver today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;In the full episode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Flexibility as a revenue stream for CPOs, through energy markets and as a non-wire alternative to grid build-out&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why more CPOs should engage directly with regulators and policymakers on grid integration&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• How smart charging, depot charging and energy management went from niche to mainstream since ICNC 2024&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why investors are now asking CPOs about the value of smart charging&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Grid connection queues as a major bottleneck in the Netherlands, Denmark and other European markets&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why Europe is not one market, and what CPOs can learn from the Nordics, Germany, the UK, Australia and Canada&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• The hidden cost of grid fees and DSO peak tariffs, and how the EV charging market is shifting towards profitability&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&#127911; Listen the full episode to hear how Jaap has seen the smart charging conversation change in two years, and what CPOs are doing about grid congestion today. The episode also features Joakim, co-founder of Peak Energy, on why grid costs are the next frontier for CPO profitability.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/how-cpos-can-turn-grid-constraints"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968560/132701508/0003545a4869d98d88ad1317f61f38ea/standard/download-13-thumbnail.jpg" width="270" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:15:49 GMT</pubDate>
            <media:title>How CPOs Can Turn Grid Constraints Into Revenue | Podcast#57 Highlight </media:title>
            <itunes:summary>What if grid constraints were a revenue stream instead of a roadblock? Independent EV grid integration consultant Jaap Burger argues that this is the conversation CPOs need to be having, and that far too few are having it with policymakers and regulators.Flexibility creates value in two ways: through energy markets, and as a non-wire alternative that avoids costly grid build-out. With grid connection queues growing from the Netherlands to Denmark, that value is getting harder for charge point operators to ignore. Recorded at ICNC 2026 for Episode 57 of FLEXeCHARGE's ChargePoint Podcast.About the guest: Jaap Burger is an independent consultant specialising in EV grid integration, including smart and bidirectional charging. He works across regulation, policy and innovation, translating policy into business terms for companies and showing policymakers what charging technology can already deliver today.In the full episode:• Flexibility as a revenue stream for CPOs, through energy markets and as a non-wire alternative to grid build-out• Why more CPOs should engage directly with regulators and policymakers on grid integration• How smart charging, depot charging and energy management went from niche to mainstream since ICNC 2024• Why investors are now asking CPOs about the value of smart charging• Grid connection queues as a major bottleneck in the Netherlands, Denmark and other European markets• Why Europe is not one market, and what CPOs can learn from the Nordics, Germany, the UK, Australia and Canada• The hidden cost of grid fees and DSO peak tariffs, and how the EV charging market is shifting towards profitability&#127911; Listen the full episode to hear how Jaap has seen the smart charging conversation change in two years, and what CPOs are doing about grid congestion today. The episode also features Joakim, co-founder of Peak Energy, on why grid costs are the next frontier for CPO profitability.</itunes:summary>
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            <media:description type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What if grid constraints were a revenue stream instead of a roadblock? Independent EV grid integration consultant Jaap Burger argues that this is the conversation CPOs need to be having, and that far too few are having it with policymakers and regulators.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;Flexibility creates value in two ways: through energy markets, and as a non-wire alternative that avoids costly grid build-out. With grid connection queues growing from the Netherlands to Denmark, that value is getting harder for charge point operators to ignore. Recorded at ICNC 2026 for Episode 57 of FLEXeCHARGE's ChargePoint Podcast.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;About the guest: Jaap Burger is an independent consultant specialising in EV grid integration, including smart and bidirectional charging. He works across regulation, policy and innovation, translating policy into business terms for companies and showing policymakers what charging technology can already deliver today.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;In the full episode:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Flexibility as a revenue stream for CPOs, through energy markets and as a non-wire alternative to grid build-out&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why more CPOs should engage directly with regulators and policymakers on grid integration&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• How smart charging, depot charging and energy management went from niche to mainstream since ICNC 2024&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why investors are now asking CPOs about the value of smart charging&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Grid connection queues as a major bottleneck in the Netherlands, Denmark and other European markets&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• Why Europe is not one market, and what CPOs can learn from the Nordics, Germany, the UK, Australia and Canada&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;• The hidden cost of grid fees and DSO peak tariffs, and how the EV charging market is shifting towards profitability&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&#127911; Listen the full episode to hear how Jaap has seen the smart charging conversation change in two years, and what CPOs are doing about grid congestion today. The episode also features Joakim, co-founder of Peak Energy, on why grid costs are the next frontier for CPO profitability.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="text-align: left;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/how-cpos-can-turn-grid-constraints"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968560/132701508/0003545a4869d98d88ad1317f61f38ea/standard/download-13-thumbnail.jpg" width="270" height="480"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</media:description>
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            <title>Electric Truck TCO Parity in Germany &amp; the Netherlands Explained | Podcast...</title>
            <link>http://video.flexecharge.com/electric-truck-tco-parity-in</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this highlight from &lt;strong&gt;Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast&lt;/strong&gt;, host &lt;strong&gt;Christophe Lephilibert&lt;/strong&gt; speaks with &lt;strong&gt;Otto Gussenhoven (sennder)&lt;/strong&gt; about what electric truck &lt;strong&gt;TCO parity really means in practice&lt;/strong&gt; for Germany and the Netherlands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They explain that parity can be achieved when electricity prices reach roughly &lt;strong&gt;€0.25–0.26 per kWh&lt;/strong&gt;, allowing electric trucks to operate at competitive cost per kilometre. But the conversation goes further: achieving parity on paper is not enough unless fleets can &lt;strong&gt;translate TCO into value&lt;/strong&gt; through efficient utilization, planning, and driver deployment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This insight shows why successful electric freight operations depend on both &lt;strong&gt;energy strategy and operational excellence&lt;/strong&gt;, especially in European markets with tight margins and high utilization expectations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;What electricity price enables electric truck TCO parity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why Germany and the Netherlands are key reference markets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How TCO translates into cost per kilometre&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why utilization and planning define real competitiveness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How logistics companies turn parity into customer value&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#128073; Subscribe for insights on electric freight and energy strategy&lt;br&gt;&#128073; Learn how FLEXECHARGE enables cost-efficient, grid-aware charging for electric fleets&amp;nbsp;&lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/electric-truck-tco-parity-in"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968567/123123879/140626c205adcf5679f2e50b5eb219ac/standard/download-16-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 12:29:39 GMT</pubDate>
            <media:title>Electric Truck TCO Parity in Germany &amp; the Netherlands Explained | Podcast...</media:title>
            <itunes:summary>In this highlight from Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast, host Christophe Lephilibert speaks with Otto Gussenhoven (sennder) about what electric truck TCO parity really means in practice for Germany and the Netherlands.They explain that parity can be achieved when electricity prices reach roughly €0.25–0.26 per kWh, allowing electric trucks to operate at competitive cost per kilometre. But the conversation goes further: achieving parity on paper is not enough unless fleets can translate TCO into value through efficient utilization, planning, and driver deployment.This insight shows why successful electric freight operations depend on both energy strategy and operational excellence, especially in European markets with tight margins and high utilization expectations.In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:What electricity price enables electric truck TCO parityWhy Germany and the Netherlands are key reference marketsHow TCO translates into cost per kilometreWhy utilization and planning define real competitivenessHow logistics companies turn parity into customer value&#128073; Subscribe for insights on electric freight and energy strategy&#128073; Learn how FLEXECHARGE enables cost-efficient, grid-aware charging for electric fleetshttps://www.flexecharge.com/</itunes:summary>
            <itunes:subtitle>In this highlight from Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast, host Christophe Lephilibert speaks with Otto Gussenhoven (sennder) about what electric truck TCO parity really means in practice for Germany and the Netherlands.They explain that...</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:author>FLEXECHARGE</itunes:author>
            <itunes:duration>00:49</itunes:duration>
            <media:description type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this highlight from &lt;strong&gt;Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast&lt;/strong&gt;, host &lt;strong&gt;Christophe Lephilibert&lt;/strong&gt; speaks with &lt;strong&gt;Otto Gussenhoven (sennder)&lt;/strong&gt; about what electric truck &lt;strong&gt;TCO parity really means in practice&lt;/strong&gt; for Germany and the Netherlands.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They explain that parity can be achieved when electricity prices reach roughly &lt;strong&gt;€0.25–0.26 per kWh&lt;/strong&gt;, allowing electric trucks to operate at competitive cost per kilometre. But the conversation goes further: achieving parity on paper is not enough unless fleets can &lt;strong&gt;translate TCO into value&lt;/strong&gt; through efficient utilization, planning, and driver deployment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This insight shows why successful electric freight operations depend on both &lt;strong&gt;energy strategy and operational excellence&lt;/strong&gt;, especially in European markets with tight margins and high utilization expectations.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;What electricity price enables electric truck TCO parity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why Germany and the Netherlands are key reference markets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How TCO translates into cost per kilometre&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why utilization and planning define real competitiveness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How logistics companies turn parity into customer value&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#128073; Subscribe for insights on electric freight and energy strategy&lt;br&gt;&#128073; Learn how FLEXECHARGE enables cost-efficient, grid-aware charging for electric fleets&amp;nbsp;&lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/electric-truck-tco-parity-in"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968567/123123879/140626c205adcf5679f2e50b5eb219ac/standard/download-16-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</media:description>
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            <title>Why Energy Costs Decide Electric Truck TCO | Podcast #42 Highlight</title>
            <link>http://video.flexecharge.com/why-energy-costs-decide-electric</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this highlight from &lt;strong&gt;Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast&lt;/strong&gt;, host &lt;strong&gt;Christophe Lephilibert&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Otto Gussenhoven (sennder)&lt;/strong&gt; break down why energy represents a &lt;strong&gt;much wider optimization margin&lt;/strong&gt; in electric trucking than fuel ever did for diesel.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While diesel costs typically account for around &lt;strong&gt;25% of TCO&lt;/strong&gt; with limited room for optimization, electricity in electric road freight can range from &lt;strong&gt;10% to 30% of TCO&lt;/strong&gt;. Unlike diesel, electricity can be &lt;strong&gt;produced, stored, bought, and even sold&lt;/strong&gt;, giving fleet operators strategic control over energy costs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The discussion highlights how depot charging at under &lt;strong&gt;€0.20/kWh&lt;/strong&gt; versus public charging at &lt;strong&gt;€0.40/kWh&lt;/strong&gt; can dramatically change operating economics—making energy strategy a decisive factor for competitiveness in electric freight, particularly across Europe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How energy costs impact electric truck TCO&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why electricity offers more optimization potential than diesel&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The role of depot vs. public charging in cost control&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How energy sourcing and storage affect freight margins&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why smart charging and flexibility matter for electric fleets&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#128073; Subscribe for more insights on electric freight and energy strategy&lt;br&gt;&#128073; Learn how FLEXECHARGE enables smart charging and grid-aware cost optimisation&amp;nbsp;&lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/why-energy-costs-decide-electric"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968576/123122718/ebb6c28291bf4fc45703d42914ddce9d/standard/download-16-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:57:02 GMT</pubDate>
            <media:title>Why Energy Costs Decide Electric Truck TCO | Podcast #42 Highlight</media:title>
            <itunes:summary>In this highlight from Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast, host Christophe Lephilibert and Otto Gussenhoven (sennder) break down why energy represents a much wider optimization margin in electric trucking than fuel ever did for diesel.While diesel costs typically account for around 25% of TCO with limited room for optimization, electricity in electric road freight can range from 10% to 30% of TCO. Unlike diesel, electricity can be produced, stored, bought, and even sold, giving fleet operators strategic control over energy costs.The discussion highlights how depot charging at under €0.20/kWh versus public charging at €0.40/kWh can dramatically change operating economics—making energy strategy a decisive factor for competitiveness in electric freight, particularly across Europe.In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:How energy costs impact electric truck TCOWhy electricity offers more optimization potential than dieselThe role of depot vs. public charging in cost controlHow energy sourcing and storage affect freight marginsWhy smart charging and flexibility matter for electric fleets&#128073; Subscribe for more insights on electric freight and energy strategy&#128073; Learn how FLEXECHARGE enables smart charging and grid-aware cost optimisationhttps://www.flexecharge.com/</itunes:summary>
            <itunes:subtitle>In this highlight from Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast, host Christophe Lephilibert and Otto Gussenhoven (sennder) break down why energy represents a much wider optimization margin in electric trucking than fuel ever did for diesel.While...</itunes:subtitle>
            <itunes:author>FLEXECHARGE</itunes:author>
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            <title>When Electric Trucks Earn More on the Grid Than on the Road | Podcast #42...</title>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:49:16 GMT</pubDate>
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            <title>Pay-Per-Use Electric Trucks Explained | Podcast #42 Highlight</title>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 11:32:29 GMT</pubDate>
            <media:title>Pay-Per-Use Electric Trucks Explained | Podcast #42 Highlight</media:title>
            <itunes:summary>In this highlight from Episode 42 of The Charge Point Podcast, Otto Gussenhoven (sennder) explains why sennder and Scania launched Juna, a pay-per-use electric truck model that allows transport companies to operate electric trucks without owning them.Instead of upfront CAPEX, fleets only pay for what they use—with contracts aligned to shipper demand. sennder plays a critical role by ensuring truck utilization, matching electric trucks with customers that need to electrify their road freight operations. The result: more predictable revenues, lower risk, and stronger business cases for electric trucking.This conversation shows how access models, utilization strategy, and energy economics are becoming decisive factors in who wins as freight electrifies across Europe.In this podcast highlight, you’ll learn:How pay-per-use electric truck models work in practiceWhy access to electric trucks matters more than ownershipHow utilization and guaranteed revenue reduce electrification riskThe role of logistics platforms in scaling electric road freightWhy these models accelerate cost parity with diesel&#128073; Subscribe for more insights on EV charging, electric freight, and energy strategy&#128073; Explore FLEXECHARGE solutions for smart charging and grid-aware energy management</itunes:summary>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2025 15:24:04 GMT</pubDate>
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            <itunes:subtitle>As EV charging infrastructure expands rapidly across Europe, competition between Charge Point Operators is intensifying. EV drivers now have more choice than ever — which means CPOs must actively differentiate to ensure drivers choose their...</itunes:subtitle>
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            <media:description type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As EV charging infrastructure expands rapidly across Europe, &lt;strong&gt;competition between Charge Point Operators is intensifying&lt;/strong&gt;. EV drivers now have more choice than ever — which means CPOs must actively differentiate to ensure drivers choose &lt;em&gt;their&lt;/em&gt; chargers over competitors’.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this &lt;strong&gt;Podcast #39 highlight&lt;/strong&gt;, Theo Reichgelt (Founder, Next Industry) explains why &lt;strong&gt;marketing, loyalty strategies, and brand connection&lt;/strong&gt; will define the next phase of EV charging growth. From targeting specific use cases to integrating advertising screens at charging sites, CPOs are exploring new business models that go far beyond kilowatts and uptime.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#128273; &lt;strong&gt;Key takeaways&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why EV charging markets are becoming crowded locally&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;How CPOs can differentiate when drivers have multiple options&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The role of loyalty programs and audience segmentation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Advertising and on-site engagement as new revenue levers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why brand trust and comfort influence charger selection&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#127911; &lt;strong&gt;Listen to the full episode of The Charge Point Podcast&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/how-cpos-stand-out-in-a-crowded-ev"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968576/120027312/ddd3a6b70cb4053ad01e11f5ac7849bd/standard/download-19-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</media:description>
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            <title>Why CPOs Need Smart Load Management for Flexibility Access | Podcast #37...</title>
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            <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this highlight from Episode 37 – Monetizing Flexibility: How Flower Turns EV Charging Sites Into Valuable Grid Assets, My Näslund explains why load and energy management platforms—such as FLEXECHARGE HARMON-E—are critical enablers for participating in flexibility markets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of integrating separately with every charger brand or backend system, CPOs can connect once through a unified platform. This simplifies technical complexity, ensures consistent control signals, and enables operators to aggregate their charging assets for smart flexibility participation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By providing real-time data, controllability, and interoperability across mixed hardware environments, HARMON-E allows CPOs to unlock grid-supportive value streams without extensive custom engineering.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This clip is essential for infrastructure owners, energy managers, and CPOs looking to streamline operations and tap into balancing markets through a scalable, platform-driven approach.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#128279; Explore more from FLEXECHARGE:&lt;br&gt;• Podcast homepage → &lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• Learn how HARMON-E enables smart, grid-aware load control&lt;br&gt;• Customer cases on energy optimisation → &lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/customer-cases"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/customer-cases&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• Subscribe for more insights on flexibility, smart charging, and EV energy systems&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/why-cpos-need-smart-load-management"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968561/118786592/03daa14a2eeabc4f687b422fbd899569/standard/download-16-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:40:29 GMT</pubDate>
            <media:title>Why CPOs Need Smart Load Management for Flexibility Access | Podcast #37...</media:title>
            <itunes:summary>In this highlight from Episode 37 – Monetizing Flexibility: How Flower Turns EV Charging Sites Into Valuable Grid Assets, My Näslund explains why load and energy management platforms—such as FLEXECHARGE HARMON-E—are critical enablers for participating in flexibility markets.Instead of integrating separately with every charger brand or backend system, CPOs can connect once through a unified platform. This simplifies technical complexity, ensures consistent control signals, and enables operators to aggregate their charging assets for smart flexibility participation.By providing real-time data, controllability, and interoperability across mixed hardware environments, HARMON-E allows CPOs to unlock grid-supportive value streams without extensive custom engineering.This clip is essential for infrastructure owners, energy managers, and CPOs looking to streamline operations and tap into balancing markets through a scalable, platform-driven approach.&#128279; Explore more from FLEXECHARGE:• Podcast homepage → https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast• Learn how HARMON-E enables smart, grid-aware load control• Customer cases on energy optimisation → https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/customer-cases• Subscribe for more insights on flexibility, smart charging, and EV energy systems</itunes:summary>
            <itunes:subtitle>In this highlight from Episode 37 – Monetizing Flexibility: How Flower Turns EV Charging Sites Into Valuable Grid Assets, My Näslund explains why load and energy management platforms—such as FLEXECHARGE HARMON-E—are critical enablers for...</itunes:subtitle>
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            <media:description type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this highlight from Episode 37 – Monetizing Flexibility: How Flower Turns EV Charging Sites Into Valuable Grid Assets, My Näslund explains why load and energy management platforms—such as FLEXECHARGE HARMON-E—are critical enablers for participating in flexibility markets.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Instead of integrating separately with every charger brand or backend system, CPOs can connect once through a unified platform. This simplifies technical complexity, ensures consistent control signals, and enables operators to aggregate their charging assets for smart flexibility participation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By providing real-time data, controllability, and interoperability across mixed hardware environments, HARMON-E allows CPOs to unlock grid-supportive value streams without extensive custom engineering.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This clip is essential for infrastructure owners, energy managers, and CPOs looking to streamline operations and tap into balancing markets through a scalable, platform-driven approach.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#128279; Explore more from FLEXECHARGE:&lt;br&gt;• Podcast homepage → &lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• Learn how HARMON-E enables smart, grid-aware load control&lt;br&gt;• Customer cases on energy optimisation → &lt;a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/customer-cases"&gt;https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/customer-cases&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• Subscribe for more insights on flexibility, smart charging, and EV energy systems&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://video.flexecharge.com/why-cpos-need-smart-load-management"&gt;&lt;img src="http://video.flexecharge.com/64968561/118786592/03daa14a2eeabc4f687b422fbd899569/standard/download-16-thumbnail.jpg" width="75" height=""/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</media:description>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:17:54 GMT</pubDate>
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            <itunes:summary>A new Charge Point Podcast episode drops soon — recorded live at ICNC 2025 in Berlin. Christophe from FLEXECHARGE sits down with industry leaders to discuss EV adoption, heavy-duty transport, modular software, and AI for CPOs.&#128073; Stay tuned: https://www.flexecharge.com/resources/the-charge-point-podcast</itunes:summary>
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